jav6454
Apr 25, 09:30 PM
That doesn't mean anything. 12 divided by 5 has a remainder of 2. You and Plutonius where at the last two on the list of players.
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AaronEdwards
Apr 29, 01:50 AM
Ok, that works if you are thinking of getting a cellphone vs. not getting a cellphone.
But when you are thinking of getting what type of cellphone, no, it doesn't count. Cause by deciding you are getting a cellphone but trying to decide which type, you already committed to buying the plan,what type of cellphone does not affect the cost of the plan, you are going to pay it regardless. So the cost of the plan really doesn't count for the cost of the cellphone when you are comparing cellphones together.
Maybe if we were comparing getting a landline to a cellphone (where the costs of the service for the landline are going to be drastically different).
Or even if we were comparing going from AT&T to Verizon there might be some small difference. So only if the cellphones are on different networks (with the iphone though, this only matters if you are comparing to a T-Mobile or Sprint phone as you can get an iphone on either AT&T or Verizon so the plan cost will be the same for the iphone as whatever other phone you want to get on either network).
You still don't get the point.
The point is when we are comparing different cellphones to each other, the service doesn't matter cause if you are getting the cellphone, you are going to pay the service regardless and which cellphone you get isn't going to affect the service's price. Therefore it is irrelevant when talking cost of one cellphone vs. another to bring in the cost o the contract.
Total cost matters. And since you are going to have to pay the monthly payment even if you don't use the phone one second or download even one byte, then, yes, the plan is part of the total cost of the phone.
Without the plan, the 3GS costs $449 not $49.
The monthly cost for a 3GS will be higher than the initial payment. And my example is with the cheapest plan I could get, with a more expensive plan the difference in what you pay for the phone will matter even less. And mccldwll has an excellent point about the value of the phone at the end of contract period.
Anyone who is unable to pay the extra $150 up front, probably shouldn't get a phone with a plan that will at least cost you $55/month. And if go for the cheapest plan, then what's the point of getting a smart phone?
Is there actually anyone here who would buy a 3GS over a 4? Anyone who thinks that's a good idea? For themselves? Considering that most people here are talking about waiting for the 4S/5.
But when you are thinking of getting what type of cellphone, no, it doesn't count. Cause by deciding you are getting a cellphone but trying to decide which type, you already committed to buying the plan,what type of cellphone does not affect the cost of the plan, you are going to pay it regardless. So the cost of the plan really doesn't count for the cost of the cellphone when you are comparing cellphones together.
Maybe if we were comparing getting a landline to a cellphone (where the costs of the service for the landline are going to be drastically different).
Or even if we were comparing going from AT&T to Verizon there might be some small difference. So only if the cellphones are on different networks (with the iphone though, this only matters if you are comparing to a T-Mobile or Sprint phone as you can get an iphone on either AT&T or Verizon so the plan cost will be the same for the iphone as whatever other phone you want to get on either network).
You still don't get the point.
The point is when we are comparing different cellphones to each other, the service doesn't matter cause if you are getting the cellphone, you are going to pay the service regardless and which cellphone you get isn't going to affect the service's price. Therefore it is irrelevant when talking cost of one cellphone vs. another to bring in the cost o the contract.
Total cost matters. And since you are going to have to pay the monthly payment even if you don't use the phone one second or download even one byte, then, yes, the plan is part of the total cost of the phone.
Without the plan, the 3GS costs $449 not $49.
The monthly cost for a 3GS will be higher than the initial payment. And my example is with the cheapest plan I could get, with a more expensive plan the difference in what you pay for the phone will matter even less. And mccldwll has an excellent point about the value of the phone at the end of contract period.
Anyone who is unable to pay the extra $150 up front, probably shouldn't get a phone with a plan that will at least cost you $55/month. And if go for the cheapest plan, then what's the point of getting a smart phone?
Is there actually anyone here who would buy a 3GS over a 4? Anyone who thinks that's a good idea? For themselves? Considering that most people here are talking about waiting for the 4S/5.
Rogue.
May 3, 07:41 AM
UK store now up, i7 still a BTO :p
Smokin AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB GDDR5 [+ �80.00] though :D
Smokin AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB GDDR5 [+ �80.00] though :D
motulist
Apr 21, 11:39 PM
Play the Sue Me, Sue You Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2JIexhpMNs).
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lordonuthin
Oct 26, 09:50 PM
The 80k PPD is a 32 core AMD system...
That's what I meant.
That's what I meant.
BlackSoUl
Oct 24, 09:12 AM
I'm still holding out for C2D Macbooks, I hope they release them, I don't want a MBP!
Me either, well I do - I just can't afford it :] haha
Going to New York in December so I'm getting one cheap. I just hope it's update by then and not Jan. I'd be so P*ssed! lol
Me either, well I do - I just can't afford it :] haha
Going to New York in December so I'm getting one cheap. I just hope it's update by then and not Jan. I'd be so P*ssed! lol
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DotComName
May 4, 09:40 AM
Also, I'm more concerned with iOS 5 and what it'll bring, than I am with what new specs the iPhone 5 will have.
Mord
Apr 27, 01:04 PM
We can't have an opinion (which is shared by others) it seems. Yeah, what exactly do you know?
Jesus christ. You presented your point as "obvious fact" then it was knocked back to pure conjecture, and now you've gone straight to whining that you feel disallowed your opinion, because *gasp* someone on the internet disagreed.
Grow up.
Jesus christ. You presented your point as "obvious fact" then it was knocked back to pure conjecture, and now you've gone straight to whining that you feel disallowed your opinion, because *gasp* someone on the internet disagreed.
Grow up.
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archer75
Apr 25, 02:46 PM
I really don't think that the 6870 will be in the 27 inch version. The current card (5750) has a power draw of 86 watts. The 6870 has a draw of 151 watts. Too much heat.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-15.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/325-amd-radeon-6870/page10.html
You're looking at the desktop cards. Imacs use laptop GPU's.
The 5750 in the current imac is actually a 5850m. A 6850m is actually slower than that. They will need a 6950m or 6970m to be an upgrade.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-15.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/325-amd-radeon-6870/page10.html
You're looking at the desktop cards. Imacs use laptop GPU's.
The 5750 in the current imac is actually a 5850m. A 6850m is actually slower than that. They will need a 6950m or 6970m to be an upgrade.
iJohnHenry
Feb 1, 07:57 AM
What a team player.
300 people sitting on their hands, while he 'plays'.
Charming.
300 people sitting on their hands, while he 'plays'.
Charming.
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gkhaldi
Oct 23, 12:43 PM
That's what makes all the rancor about this so funny. Depending on the reading of this EULA provision, Apple's limits are still as, or more, restrictive than Microsoft's.
But at least they are clear. And, last time I checked OS X wasn't far of the 99$ mark for a 5 instance home license. Compare that with Micro$oft:p :p
But at least they are clear. And, last time I checked OS X wasn't far of the 99$ mark for a 5 instance home license. Compare that with Micro$oft:p :p
GekkePrutser
Apr 18, 04:32 AM
Any have a guess guess what this might mean for the 11"? Will that have to be even more of a compromise? I'm worried the C2D/320M might be a better option for me if Apple go for Sandy Bridge and have to cut even more corners on the 11" due to even harsher space/energy drain constraints.
If the CPU option for an 11" bump is only a marginal performance increase (*if* Apple choose to bump this summer), the nVidia GPU seems too good to lose.
It's not a marginal increase. The Sandy Bridge 1.4Ghz ULV (expected to be in the new 11") is 40% faster than the C2D LV 1.86Ghz chip that's currently in the base 13" in some benchmarks.
If the CPU option for an 11" bump is only a marginal performance increase (*if* Apple choose to bump this summer), the nVidia GPU seems too good to lose.
It's not a marginal increase. The Sandy Bridge 1.4Ghz ULV (expected to be in the new 11") is 40% faster than the C2D LV 1.86Ghz chip that's currently in the base 13" in some benchmarks.
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ikir
May 4, 12:58 AM
iPhone 4 is more than enough, probably they will update at the end of the year or September. Live with it nerds.
leekohler
Apr 27, 01:27 PM
Fair enough, not fact but a blatantly obvious observation which by no means is false, as others have agreed. It may be difficult for you to put things in perspective, perhaps due to the strong emotion after watching what unfolded.
How can you be sure of that? And you're calling me out on applying the word "fact"? Quite ironic.
I seem to have hit a nerve for pointing it out as not genuine, my initial post wasn't even focused on that specific point, but the other poster appeared to be profoundly upset with my reasoning.
No- you hit a nerve when you tried to claim speculation as fact. That annoys me more than anything.
How can you be sure of that? And you're calling me out on applying the word "fact"? Quite ironic.
I seem to have hit a nerve for pointing it out as not genuine, my initial post wasn't even focused on that specific point, but the other poster appeared to be profoundly upset with my reasoning.
No- you hit a nerve when you tried to claim speculation as fact. That annoys me more than anything.
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ppilone
Mar 31, 12:00 PM
What happened to iCal from the Beta 1 Lion release? I felt that was a great unification of iOS iCal and OS X iCal (the layout was similar to iPad's iCal but it still looked like an OS X app). This new, giant brown header with embossed buttons and hard-to-read titles is just... awful.
txr0ckabilly
Apr 13, 05:35 PM
i've got an ATVclassic and the the ATV2. i don't need a $2000 apple cinema display. what i do need/want is an apple double din car stereo with built in wifi, 3g, touchscreen, ipod and maps. i want to pull up in my driveway every night and be able to wirelessly sync songs from my mac to my car's stereo. i want 3g for pandora or maybe mobileme (if that cloud storage thing ever comes to fruition). i want more mobile not stagnant, sit-in-front-of-the tv crap.
honestly, since getting the ATV a few years ago, i watch tv less. i listen to more music streamed through my entire house. if i sit down in front of the television its almost always for the purpose of watching a movie. i love the mobility of apple products now and i always have my mac for a base station to come back to to do work.
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i think i post this same junk every time i see the rumor of an apple branded television.
honestly, since getting the ATV a few years ago, i watch tv less. i listen to more music streamed through my entire house. if i sit down in front of the television its almost always for the purpose of watching a movie. i love the mobility of apple products now and i always have my mac for a base station to come back to to do work.
my .02
i think i post this same junk every time i see the rumor of an apple branded television.
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MacRumors
Jul 24, 03:09 PM
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DailyTech reports (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3475) that a filing with the Federal Communications Commission reveals that Apple has developed a Bluetooth (wireless) version of its Mighty Mouse (http://www.apple.com/mightymouse/), otherwise identical to the current model and its touch-sensitive cover, Scroll Ball, and force-sensing side buttons.
The new Mighty Mouse uses two standard AA batteries and will be compatible with OS X 10.4.6 and later. No release date is set for the new Bluetooth Mighty Mouse -- currently codenamed M6, but judging from the FCC filing, the new mouse should arrive soon.
MacRumors recently received word that Apple repair technicians and phone support had been briefed on how to deal with the new hardware, indicating a release may be imminent. The Mighty Mouse was introduced (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/08/20050802094256.shtml) in August 2005.
Update: According to a picture of a preliminary product manual obtained by AppleInsider (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1909), the new wireless Mighty Mouse will use Laser tracking in place of the Optical tracking system the current USB Mighty Mouse uses. Laser-based mice typically are more accurate and less prone to errors on extremely smooth surfaces.
DailyTech reports (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3475) that a filing with the Federal Communications Commission reveals that Apple has developed a Bluetooth (wireless) version of its Mighty Mouse (http://www.apple.com/mightymouse/), otherwise identical to the current model and its touch-sensitive cover, Scroll Ball, and force-sensing side buttons.
The new Mighty Mouse uses two standard AA batteries and will be compatible with OS X 10.4.6 and later. No release date is set for the new Bluetooth Mighty Mouse -- currently codenamed M6, but judging from the FCC filing, the new mouse should arrive soon.
MacRumors recently received word that Apple repair technicians and phone support had been briefed on how to deal with the new hardware, indicating a release may be imminent. The Mighty Mouse was introduced (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/08/20050802094256.shtml) in August 2005.
Update: According to a picture of a preliminary product manual obtained by AppleInsider (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1909), the new wireless Mighty Mouse will use Laser tracking in place of the Optical tracking system the current USB Mighty Mouse uses. Laser-based mice typically are more accurate and less prone to errors on extremely smooth surfaces.
marksman
Apr 13, 06:45 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/8G4)
Anytime an "analyst" opens their mouth, it should be page 2 material at best.
wat!
Anytime an "analyst" opens their mouth, it should be page 2 material at best.
wat!
Fubar1977
Feb 14, 05:44 AM
He sooooooo resembles his fictional character in Two and Half Men in true life!
That`s not a sit-com, it`s a fly on the wall documentary :D
That`s not a sit-com, it`s a fly on the wall documentary :D
JAT
Apr 18, 01:00 PM
thats nothing I show 15 hours.
Dialup? Download took a few minutes for me. 4.27 for Verizon.
Dialup? Download took a few minutes for me. 4.27 for Verizon.
paulg
Apr 11, 03:38 AM
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atari1356
Oct 24, 07:45 AM
From the press release:
"up to 39 percent faster than the previous 2.16 GHz MacBook Pro"
Really? I'd like to see those benchmarks... nice that they finally added FW800 back into the 15" model.
"up to 39 percent faster than the previous 2.16 GHz MacBook Pro"
Really? I'd like to see those benchmarks... nice that they finally added FW800 back into the 15" model.
twoodcc
Oct 18, 04:51 PM
way to go Apple! apple keeps looking better and better each year. i'm glad i'm here
kiljoy616
Apr 22, 08:18 PM
I'm sober and it's not looking all that good from my end. :-/
Why are you sober its Friday and that is not something allowed.;)
I know I will need some tequila to buy something that looks like a regect of the iTouch. :o
Why are you sober its Friday and that is not something allowed.;)
I know I will need some tequila to buy something that looks like a regect of the iTouch. :o
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